March 7, 2017

Cüneyt Çakır in charge of Napoli - Real Madrid, Tasos Sidiropoulos appointed for Arsenal - Bayern

Turkish Elite Cüneyt Çakır will be the man in the middle for the return leg of SSC Napoli - Real Madrid, while Greek Anastasios Sidiropoulos will make his debut in CL KO phase, having been selected for Arsenal - Bayern München. Both matches will be played on 7 March. 




7 March 2017, 20:45 CET (Stadio San Paolo, Naples)
SSC Napoli – Real Madrid CF
Referee: Çüneyt Çakir (TUR)
Assistant Referee: Bahattin Duran (TUR)
Assistant Referee: Tarik Ongun (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Hüseyin Göçek (TUR)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Barış Şimşek (TUR)
Fourth Official: Mustafa Emre Eyisoy (TUR)
UEFA Referee Observer: Alexandru Deaconu (ROU)
UEFA Delegate: Jacques Antenen (SUI)

7 March 2017, 20:45 CET (Emirates Stadium, London)
Arsenal  FC – FC Bayern München 
Referee: Tasos Sidiropoulos (GRE)
Assistant Referee: Damianos Efthymiadis (GRE)
Assistant Referee: Polychronis Kostaras (GRE)
Additional Assistant Referee 1: Charalambos Kalogeropoulos (GRE)
Additional Assistant Referee 2: Alexandros Aretopoulos (GRE)
Fourth Official: Lazaros Dimitriadis (GRE)
UEFA Referee Observer: Patrick Kelly (IRL)
UEFA Delegate: Pierino Lardi (SUI)

53 Comments:

  1. Expected name in Napoli - Real.
    Congratulations to Sidiropulos for his debut in CL KO stage, I didn't expect him.
    Surely a game in which the Greek will gain more experience at high level.
    I think tomorrow we can expect Kuipers in Dortmund and an Italian (Orsato / Rocchi, I think Orsato) in Barcelona.

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    1. @Chefren Is Georgios Bikas an important observer?? If Kuipers is indeed appointed for Dortmund v Benfica then what is Bikas' presence as an observer most likely indicating??

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    2. I also think Kuipers in Dortmund. in Barcelona: Pavel Královec or Ovidiu Hategan. In my opion may every country (elite list) deliver a referee in the last 16. Italy still have deliverd Rizzoli

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    3. Georgios Bikas observed Eriksson, Skomina and Thomson from Elite Group referees this season, so I would expect an experienced Elite Group referee.

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    4. Georgios Bikas observes experienced Elite referees. I would say a "regular" observer for CL high level games.

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    5. I agree with Chefren and Ray - Kuipers would suit in the line in terms of Bikas' games.

      For Barca-PSG I would also add Aytekin as a possible candidate: His regular AR2 Häcker, who usually accompanies Dankert in Bundesliga, is not appointed for Dankert's Youth League game. So maybe he has other duties next week.

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  2. I think Bas Nijhuis don't get a appointment this season, because he was not good this weekend

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  3. My Early predection for next WC QF round
    Group A:
    Sweden-Belarus David Fernández Borbalán (ESP)
    Bulgaria-Netherlands Sergei Karasev (RUS)
    Luxemburg-France Pawel Raczkowski (POL)
    Group B:
    Switzerland-Latvia Benoít Bastien (FRA)
    Andorra-Faroe Islands Vladislav Bezbodorov (RUS)
    Portugal-Hungary Cüneyt Cakir (TUR)
    Group C:
    San Marino-Czech Republic Radu Petrescu (ROU)
    Azerbaijan-Germany Orel Grinfeeld (ISR)
    Northern Ireland-Norway Gianluca Rocchi (ITA)
    Group D:
    Georgia-Serbia Michael Oliver (ENG)
    Austria-Moldova Tamás Bognár (HUN)
    Republic of Ireland-Wales Szymon Marciniak (POL)
    Group E:
    Armenia-Kazakstan Alejandro Hernández Hernández (ESP)
    Romania-Denmark Milorad Mazic (SRB)
    Montenegro-Poland Tasos Sidiropoulos (GRE)
    Group F:
    England-Lithuania Jakob Kehlet (DEN)
    Scotland-Slovenia Felix Zwayer (GER)
    Malta-Slovakia Miroslav Zelinka (CZE)
    Group G:
    Italy-Albania Viktor Kassai (HUN)
    Spain-Israel Craig Thomson (SCO)
    Liechteinstein-Macedonia Ivan Kruzliak (SVK)
    Group H:
    Cyprus-Estonia Matej Jug (SVN)
    Bosnia and Harzegovina - Gibraltar Ali Palabiyik (TUR)
    Belgium-Greece Nicola Rizzoli (ITA)
    Group I:
    Kosovo-Island Aliyar Aghayev (AZE)
    Croatia- Ukraine Jonas Eriksson (SWE)
    Turkey-Finnland Craig Pawson (ENG)

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    1. Mine is:
      Sweden-Belarus: Estrada Fernandez (ESP)
      Bulgaria-Netherlands: Mateu Lahoz (ESP)
      Luxemburg-France: Beaton (SCO)
      Switzerland-Latvia: Makkelie (NED)
      Andorra-Faroe Islands: Johannesson (SWE)
      Portugal-Hungary: Oliver (ENG)
      San Marino-Czech Republic: Aranovsky (UKR)
      Azerbaijan-Germany: Orsato (ITA)
      Northern Ireland-Norway: Lechner (AUT)
      Georgia-Serbia: Soares Dias (POR)
      Austria-Moldova: Grinfeld (ISR)
      Republic of Ireland-Wales: Brych (GER)
      Armenia-Kazakstan: Treimanis (LAT)
      Romania-Denmark: Gräfe (GER)
      Montenegro-Poland: Kassai (HUN)
      England-Lithuania: Moen (NOR)
      Scotland-Slovenia: Bastien (FRA)
      Malta-Slovakia: Chapron (FRA)
      Italy-Albania: Collum (SCO)
      Spain-Israel: Marciniak (POL)
      Liechtenstein-Macedonia: Ekberg (SWE)
      Cyprus-Estonia: Banti (ITA)
      Bosnia and Harzegovina - Gibraltar: Vincic (SVN)
      Belgium-Greece: Rizzoli (ITA)
      Kosovo-Island: Eskov (RUS)
      Croatia- Ukraine: Atkinson (ENG)
      Turkey-Finnland: Evans (WAL)

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  4. Is it possible for Clattenburg to have a "farewell" match on the WC Qualifiers?

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    1. I don't think so (remember Kenn Hansen, who was de-appointed from his UCL game after UEFA heard from his retirement plans), but it would be possible that the one or other FA invites him for friendlies (as he is still listed as FIFA official).

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  5. It seems Jonathan Lardot (Belgium) will have his first WC Qualifiers on 24/3 (www.belgianfootball.be)

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  6. Well, Tasos Sidiropoulos is not doing anything to cement his standing in the UEFA pecking order. Lots of very soft fouls in first half (notably a perfectly clean shoulder to shoulder charge by Vidal), some obvious fouls missed, and now a caution to Theo Walcott for...nothing (other than an unwillingness to sanction only one player - even the Alaba caution was quite soft). And yet again a missed caution on Vidal around the 43'.
    No big mistakes, but lots of small flaws.

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    1. Maybe not the greatest game management (players are not always happy with his decisions), but overall a decent performance so far. My thoughts:

      Positives
      - Key match incident judged well by AAR1 (defender plays the ball, 34')
      - Good evaluation of attacker vs defender duels in the box (no foul in 14' vs whistled fouls in 24' and 25')
      - Small riot at the penalty incident solved in calm manner (34')
      - Very quick intervention of fourth official at confrontation in 39'
      - Some good advantages
      - Good wait-and-see from AR2 (40')

      Points for consideration
      - Interfering with play and no "sorry" gesture (11')
      - Quick free kick execution not allowed because of player whose soft protests should have been ignored at the moment (26')
      - Were the yellow cards to Walcott and Alaba needed for confrontation in 39'? In my opinion, disciplinary sanction could have been avoided.
      - Shouldn't Vidal have been booked for reckless foul in 43'?
      - Small offside missed by AR2 (25')

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  7. Solid first half by Cakir in a not difficult game to handle. Both teams focused on football, no major calls. Always in control.
    Perhaps only a missed corner kick in favor of Real Madrid by AAR2, I don't remember the minute.

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  8. Minute 47' NAP - REA: I'm surprised by a very blatant offside missed by AR1.

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  9. 53' - Penalty to Bayern. YC to Koscielny changed for RC for DOGSO without the genuine attempt to play the ball upon AAR1's advice?

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    1. Very likely AAR1 recommended to change the card colour. For me a correct call. What I can't understand is that the French commentators said: they deemed the YC as "severe" but the red as "simply wrong".

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  10. Sidiropoulos with a red card for DOGSO to Koscielny inside the PK area. He gave a YC at first, but then AAR1 intervened and told him to give a red card. Correct for my taste, no chance for Koscielny to get the ball.

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  11. This depends on how Sidiropoulos deemed the foul. If it was "tripping", then a YC would have been correct - you have to give the benefit of the doubt to the defender. If it was deemed "pushing", then why give a YC in the first place? At any rate, Sidiropoulos had a clear view, so the confusion is hard to explain.

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    1. YC would be correct if it had been SPA.

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  12. At first glance I think it was a clear attempt to play / get the ball and believe that UEFA wants a yellow card here. To be rewatched.

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    1. If there is a push with left hand (even though the fouling player is not behind the attacker but on level with him), then the decision is technically correct but definitely difficult to understand to big part of football community.

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    2. Yes, for sure if AAR1 identified the foul as pushing then the red card must be given. But then I would ask: Was this pushing enough for a penalty or even foul? This is only my first impression though, would like to see it again.

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    3. Good question! The players were level (not a scenario where defender is clearly behind the attacker), so in my opinion that little hand move was not enough for a penalty.

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  13. RC to Koscielny is a correct decision. I don't know how it is possible to have doubts there. The player from Arsenal makes a direct foul on the opponent without any intent / visible action to play the ball.
    Of course, Sidiropoulos could have waited before showing a wrong YC, AAR1 was in the best position to assess that it was a "challenge directly on the man", so RC.
    Well solved, but poorly managed at first.

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    1. Similar to "deliberate" handballs, my feeling is that this part of the LotG should not be understood word-by-word. UEFA's videos and recommendations seen in the past months suggest that it is rather about whether a duel or tackle is generally aimed at getting the ball (instead of really playing it) and not clearly against an opponent. My impression is that if this is fulfilled, then UEFA mostly wants a yellow card only. I mean this only as general words independent from the Sidiropoulos case, but of course I can be wrong (subjective impression).

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    2. Niclas, this concept would become too difficult to put into practice.
      We can't read players mind. In this specific situation, I see a clear pushing by Koscielny targeted to opponent. If he wanted to play the ball, he had to make a genuine attempt. That's not something genuine.
      If we try to apply what you are saying, we should go for YC in almost every case. I disagree. But of course, my opinion. Nice to discuss.

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    3. I think the push was less of a foul than the knee-to-knee contact. Like Niclas suggests, the "push" was barely enough for a foul. But the knee-to-knee contact, which is hard to see at first glance, was very clear on replay.

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    4. The knee-to-knee contact is however not a genuine attempt to play the ball, but just a foul on the opponent. That's the point.

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    5. I agree.

      I just find it interesting that it's very difficult to actually identify the foul here. It shows the difficulty that referees will have going forward with this new interpretation.

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  14. Has to be mentioned. Damianos Efthymiadis has a great game! Now, an excellent onside leading to the 1-4 goal.

    Also great advantage from Sidiropoulos leading to the 1-3 goal!

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    1. And now the 1-5 was a great onside as well :)

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    2. Yes. Just another great wait-and-see in London this evening.

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    3. Did anyone get highlight clips of those two non-offside calls and the great advantage?

      I can see benefit to both in referee instruction (especially with the YC at the end of the advantage goal).

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  15. Penalty appeal for Napoli

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    1. Live it didn't seem so, and I missed the replays.

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  16. 32' - Arsenal's penalty appeal
    https://streamable.com/pbfg5

    53' - Bayern's penalty and RC for DOGSO upon AAR's advice
    https://streamable.com/kl7bp

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    1. 53' looks like Lewandowski is offside

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    2. Hah! So many people I talked with about that incident and no one, including me, didn't detect that blatant offside missed by Efthymiadis!

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    3. Yes, unfortunately a (crucial?) mistake. Well seen Philipp.

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    4. Well, that is nearly 1m offside. Furthermore the whole situation is not a glorious chapter for the Greek team. If you assess this tackle really as a foul (what is controversial but acceptable for me), it is a clear RC according to my opinion. So, Tasos did not only take the wrong disciplinary sanction, furthermore he did it definitely too fast as a better positioned team mate had another opinion. Why did he not wait for his opinion? One should think, he was self-confident enough but as the AAR could sway him easily after, it seems as he was not.

      The final product is a wrong decision (onside instead of offside) and a bad, chaotic management of the situation. No surprise it isn't really accepted. I'm also doubtful about the 4th offical's dealing with Arsene Wenger which seems a little bit arrogant for me. Why didn't he talk with him and explained him what happened? Communication!

      I fear, a 7.9 for A1 and -0.2 for Sidiropoulos are unavoidable.

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    5. Absolutely right, Lewandowski is in offside and I had missed that as well. The offside is quite clear, but I can understand why AR1 didn't notice it: there were other players from Bayern ready to get the ball and it was a difficult situation to read. However, this mistake changes almost everything in the final assessment for the Greek team. I wouldn't be so harsh but a blatant missed offside decided in favor of a penalty and RC.
      I'm sure Bayern would have qualified without problems in any case, but this is unluckily a more than significant crucial mistake.

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    6. I agree with you, especially with your analysis that it was a difficult situation for the AR as there were a lot of players and there was another touch of the ball by a defender. Anyway: Difficult but not impossible as the offside position itself was quite clear.

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    8. IMO if the referee correctly changed his decision from YC to RC after the intervention of AR-AAR the final mark should be 7.9 for the referee.
      So IMO if we accept decision as correct ( RC+penalty) the mark for referees team should be folow:
      Refreee -7.9 ( crucial mistake- didn't show RC)
      AR1 - 7.9 ( crucila mistake - missing offside)
      AAR1 - 8.5 ( bonus mark. Correct intervention in very important incident).

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  17. OT

    How can you not punish?
    https://streamable.com/vvp0v

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    1. IMO clear penalty. About disciplinary, IMO could be RC.

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  18. The refereeing highlights in Napoli - Real Madrid:

    21' - Foul Kroos (RMA) on Allan
    https://vimeo.com/207381770

    47' - Offside situation Napoli
    https://vimeo.com/207381916

    55' - YC Allan (NAP)
    https://vimeo.com/207382051

    87' - Penalty claim Mertens (NAP)
    https://vimeo.com/207382322

    89' - YC Diawara (NAP)
    https://vimeo.com/207382495

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    1. Foul by Kroos can be YC, but I can accept Cakir's decision.
      YC to Allan very soft if not totally wrong.
      Penalty claim by Napoli: very difficult situation, I think that Mertens was touched by the opponent, in my opinion penalty was possible there, but at the same time I can understand why Cakir didn't want to whistle. It was not 100% clear. With the replay, perhaps Cakir would have whistled it.
      YC to Diawara is absolutely correct.
      I can add another situation, minute 5', offside mistake by AR1.
      https://streamable.com/jkhm1

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    2. What about Ramos' behaviour when heading the ball into the net? Is the pushing / arm usage still legal in both cases?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuVaYmFN4HY

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  19. The RC is a 100% correct decision if the referee detects the foul is performed by pushing. The foul was small but deliberate and therefore 100% pk+rc. Great job by AAR1.

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  20. Having rewatched the video, I agree with the red card. The ball was not reachable at the moment of the foul and the knee-contact did not clearly follow the purpose to play the ball. This plus the overall opponent-targeted nature of the foul best visible in full speed make it a red card for me.

    On another note: Even though I think the knee contact was effective and intensified by the push, Lewandowski in the end slightly contributed to falling quite theatrically.

    A good point a friend of mine uttered is that maybe Sidiropoulos was influenced by a maybe negative ruling of the DOGSO he had in the national game last weekend (see the national leagues post of last week). If there the defender's tripping was deemed as a genuine attempt to play the ball making the red card incorrect, this would explain why Sidiropoulos opted for yellow here in the first place.

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